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The new Netflix seriesDahmer — Monster: The Jeffrey Dahmer Story has a title nearly as long as the trail of Dahmer shows and movies it follows.

The series from writer-director Ryan Murphy comes roughly five years after the feature film My Friend Dahmer (about the Milwaukee serial killer's high school years), itself an adaptation of a graphic novel by childhood friend and cartoonist Derf Backderf.

That book arrived in 2012, the same year as the documentary The Jeffrey Dahmer Files, which looked at Dahmer from the perspective of a detective who interviewed him and aneighbour. Tenyears before, an early-career Jeremy Renner took on the role in Dahmer, from director David Jacobson.

Of course these are not the only pieces of media about him; in fact, they'rejust the ones I've seen myself. Alongside are so many TV specials, books and podcasts analyzing a man who murdered 17 people — mostly Black men — that it's become hard to imagine there's much more ground to cover. Even with Renner's Dahmer, which saw a generally positive critical reception, theSeattle Times criticized it for not offering "any insights that haven't been thoroughly debated in the media already" — 20 years before Monsterwas to release.

And Netflix is already offering another: the newest season of Joe Berlinger'sConversations with a Killer series premieredFriday with a focus on Dahmer, after previously profiling serial killers Ted Bundy and John Wayne Gacy.

Though Berlinger said in a recent interview he was completely unaware of the other show while making his, he was "sure Netflix programmed it with the Murphy show in mind."

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The glut of shows about Dahmeris just the tip of the iceberg. He, together with Bundy and Gacy, are the three most well-known killers from whatinvestigative historian and author Peter Vronksycallsthe "golden age of serial murder."

The three decades between 1970 and 1999 saw roughly 88 per cent of all American serial killers, he said, and laid the groundwork for their transition to what might, unfortunately, be referred to as celebrity.

"They have kind of a mythical status almost," saidVronksy, theauthor of several books on the history of serial killers, "because we knew so little about them, they were so mysterious."

But the reason there are so many productions now has to do with that "golden age" and what happened after.

The concentration of those killers and their ubiquity in the newsendedwith Dahmer, who was caught in 1991, Vronksy says. He was"the last of the epidemic era" in the U.S.

After him,the novelty of the phenomenon began to taper off, as did reporting on serial killers. Serial killing itself also declined, said Vronsky, due possibly to the perpetrators being caught earlier, the ubiquity of cell phones and a decline in murder in general.

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But by the early 2000s interest in them, and true crime in general, had again exploded.

"There's been a huge increase in popularity, and [in] true crime all across the board," saidChicago-based true crime filmmaker and author John Borowski, whosedocumentarySerial Killer Culturelooked specifically into the widespread fascination with such criminals.

"You look at the channels now that are specifically only true crime channels, which didn't exist before…. You had some smattering of shows, but now they're everywhere."

That includes everything from the explosion of police interrogation analyses on YouTube (almost solely due to the popularity of the JCS Youtube channel in the past year) to reinvestigations of grisly crimes (as in Making a Murderer or thebombshell podcast Serial) to a newfound fascination with grifters and corporate cheats (as in this year's WeCrashed, Inventing Anna, The Dropout and Super Pumped).

But, largely prompted by the huge success of Netflix's Mindhunter, demand specifically for true crime on serial killers has reached a fever pitch,Borowski says.

"People are fascinated and want to see as much as they can on serial killers," he said. "They want to see as much, read as much, hear as much as they can about them."

But because the golden agehas ended, that hunger isbeing fed by returning to the same subjects for seemingly endless reanalyses. Serial killers' names operate almost like brands, with a slew of connected titles production companies can be sure will bring attention regardless of quality.

Before Dahmer, the focus was on Bundy — one of the America's most prolific serial killers who twice escaped custody before being executed in 1989. In2019there was Extremely Wicked, Shockingly Evil and Vile, a Zac Efron-led feature that preceded 2020's Ted Bundy: Falling for a Killer.

Before that was Joseph James DeAngelo, known alternatively as the East Area Rapist and the Original Nightstalker, who killed at least 13 people. Though he committed most of his crimes in the '70s and '80s, he was not caught until 2018 — barely preceded by Michelle McNamara's bookI'll Be Gone in the Dark and a followup HBO documentary, among others.

Even this year's sleeper hit Black Phone featured a serial killer modelled after Gacy, who — alongside his season of Conversations With a Killerwhich debuted earlier this year — also makes an appearance in Monster.

New angles

Having new angles, or other information that warrants a fresh look, is a common selling point.

Borowskisayseven though Gacy was arrested in 1978, new details are still being discovered. The Bundy films were largely hooked to his daughter and former girlfriend breaking their silence to tell their stories. AndMonster attemptsto turn the focus more onto Dahmer's victims and the woman who worked to see him caught, Glenda Cleveland.

Jasmyne Cannick says she saw herself in Cleveland in Monster — a Black woman fighting an institution that wouldn't investigate a crime she knew was being committed.

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While working as an investigative journalist inLos Angeles in 2017, Cannickhelped uncover that political activist Ed Buck had assaulted homeless Black men, and contributed to the deaths ofat least two,in his apartment by injecting them with methamphetamine — often while they were unconscious.

Cannickfirst started reporting on the story when one man, Gemmel Moore, was found dead in Buck's apartment, but says it wasn't until a third overdosed twice in Buck's home that he was arrested and charged. She saysMonster helped highlight an issue that is always in danger of repeating itself.

"There's definitely value. I'm a journalist. I tell stories. I'm a writer," Cannick said. "I definitely believe that there is value in sharing stories … you can be truthful and you can do right by the victim. You can do that."

But the show's attempt at juggling a focuson Dahmer's victims with a humanizing look at Dahmer himselfseemed, both to critics and those directly affected by his crimes, callous.

"I fear that these shows, whether documentaries or fictionalized takes, issue a type of sick notice to white audiences," writer Veronica Wells-Puoane said in a Daily Beast essay. "They remind them of their complexion for protection, even against the consequences of their own depravity. Commit a crime, and go down in infamy with a Netflix documentary."

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MSNBC opinion columnist Evette Dionneargued a similar piont in her article How Netflix's new Jeffrey Dahmer series fails his real victims (again).

"Americans don't need more 'awareness' of serial killers," she wrote. "We need to be honest about the consequences of retelling real tragedies."

Meanwhile, Rita Isbell — sister to Dahmer's victim Errol Lindsey— said in an interview with Insider she was never contacted about the show, and is upset that Netflix co-opted the story for its own financial gain.

I’m not telling anyone what to watch, I know true crime media is huge rn, but if you’re actually curious about the victims, my family (the Isbell’s) are pissed about this show. It’s retraumatizing over and over again, and for what? How many movies/shows/documentaries do we need? <a href="https://t.co/CRQjXWAvjx">https://t.co/CRQjXWAvjx</a>

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And despite the show'sstated goal to focus on victims, Lindsey's cousin, Eric Thulhu, tweeted soon after Monster's release that the series was "retraumatizing" to the family.

"And for what?" he wrote. "How many movies, shows [and] documentaries do we need?"

This week,Monsterbecame Netflix's ninth most watched English-language TV show of all time.

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FAQs

Will Netflix do more series like Dahmer? ›

After its debut on Sept. 21, DAHMER spent seven weeks in the Netflix Global Top 10, eventually surrendering the top spot to Murphy's other smash hit, The Watcher. Both series have now been renewed, so get ready for two additional installments of Monster, focusing on other monstrous figures who have impacted society.

Will there be another series of Dahmer? ›

All that information didn't stop Twitter accounts from speculating about another Dahmer-focused season. But rest assured, there will be no more Dahmer seasons — at least, not from Ryan Murphy and Evan Peters.

How do the victims' families feel about the Dahmer series? ›

The mother of one of Jeffrey Dahmer's victims spoke out against the hit Netflix series Dahmer—Monster: The Jeffrey Dahmer Story after its lead actor won a Golden Globe this week, saying the depiction of murderers in pop culture “keeps the obsession” with killers going, making her the latest family member of a Dahmer ...

Is everything in the new Dahmer series true? ›

The series stars Evan Peters in the titular role and documents the life and crimes of serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer. While the series does not shy away from the gruesome details, it omits certain aspects of Dahmer's childhood, his crimes, and the contents of his infamous apartment.

Who was the worst serial killer? ›

7 of History's Most Notorious Serial Killers
  • Jack the Ripper. We call him “Jack the Ripper,” but we don't really know who the person behind one of the older and most notorious murder sprees was. ...
  • Jeffrey Dahmer. ...
  • Harold Shipman. ...
  • John Wayne Gacy. ...
  • H.H. Holmes. ...
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  • Ted Bundy.

Is Dahmer a success on Netflix? ›

Dahmer received mixed reviews, but was ultimately a commercial success, reaching the number-one spot on Netflix in the first week of its release. It became Netflix's second most-watched English-language series of all time within 28 days, and the third Netflix series to pass 1 billion hours viewed in 60 days.

Is the Dahmer series disturbing? ›

One of the most disturbing details of Dahmer's crimes that this series highlights is how the police ignored and dismissed witness reports, and their lack of action allowed Dahmer to stay free and kill more men. This series is excellent.

What is the problem with the Dahmer show? ›

There is an afterthought at the end of the series where all the victims names and pictures are shown in memoriam. Many of the family members of his victims spoke out against the series, saying it retraumatized them. Rita Isbell is the sister of Errol Lindsey, who was murdered by Dahmer when he was 19-years-old.

Did Dahmer win any Emmys? ›

But the double whammy of the actors and writers strikes in Hollywood pushed the next year's Emmys telecast from September 2023 to January 2024. "Dahmer — Monster: The Jeffrey Dahmer Story" had 13 Emmy nominations overall, but Nash-Betts was the show's only Emmy win.

How close to reality is Netflix Dahmer? ›

Whether or not viewers were aware of his crimes prior to the show, it's almost hard to believe that some of what is seen in Dahmer could be real. However, we regret to say that several scenes are indeed accurate. Other aspects, though, have been changed or erased for the sake of dramatisation.

What was left out of Dahmer? ›

Glenda Cleveland didn't live next door

In reality, Cleveland didn't live next to Dahmer in the same building but in a building down the road. According to Indiewire, the character of Cleveland in the series is a composite of the real-life counterpart and Dahmer's actual next door neighbour, Pamela Bass.

Are all the events in the Dahmer show true? ›

It's a true crime drama series, so you're probably not surprised that for the most parts, Monster: The Jeffrey Dahmer Story on Netflix sticks to fact over fiction. But, some of the scenes are so shocking you might still be second guessing whether or not they could actually happen in real life.

Will Netflix make another Monster series? ›

Monster renewal news

Netflix renewed Monster for Seasons 2 and 3 — and Murphy and Brennan's The Watcher for Season 2 — on Nov. 7, 2022. "The future installments of Monster will tell the stories of other monstrous figures who have impacted society," according to Netflix.

What should I watch if I liked Dahmer? ›

Is Dahmer the most watched show on Netflix? ›

Ryan Murphy's serial killer series spent seven weeks on the Netflix Global Top 10, making the list in 92 countries. It is currently Netflix's second most popular English-language TV shows of all time, just behind Stranger Things 4. Squid Game remains the streamer's most popular TV show of all time.

Does Netflix glorify Dahmer? ›

“Netflix should've asked how we felt about them making it. They didn't ask me anything. They just did it.” Further criticism came in upon its release because of the glorification the notorious serial killer was given.

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